Could it be that he first painted the tablecloth on a plain weave canvas and after 10 years he painted on that tablecloth…..
Today I had a closer look to the tablecloth that Titian painted on “The Supper at Emmaus”. It shows (again) the importance of precisely analysing patterns, even if they are ‘only’ painted in a painting. I confess that the similarity in the patterns was a surprise to me and curiousely, I could have analysed this earlier.
I had the thought that he owned the tablecloth that he painted in “The Supper at Emmaus” (1530) and that he about 10 years later painted on that tablecloth “The Vendramin Family(1540-45)
Until today I had not precisely analysed it. I thought that a sample in the V&A collection, dated 1300 was a, left over, piece of this canvas. Beteween the latest 2 patterns is no match.
-Titian painted the pattern of the tablecloth in “The Supper at Emmaus” (1530) the painting is on a plain weave canvas.
-Titian painted “The Vendramin Family” (1540-45) on a canvas with a pattern.
If we compare both patterns we see these similarities: compare the coloured lines ! Not sure about the 5 ‘spots’ in the tablecloth in the middle of each repeat but in the weave draft this could to be worked out very differently…
Free tickets: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/…/woven-ground-weaving… Geoff Diego Litherland, Angharad Mclaren, Helena Loermans and Marta Pokojowczyk discuss making and painting handwoven canvasses. Helena Loermans is a weaver who has been researching and recreating some of the canvasses that Velasquez, El Greco and others painted on, what’s unique about her work and research is that these canvasses have often been intricately patterned fabrics. She has been skilfully recreating these for conservation reasons and has worked with museums worldwide, uncovering a lost craft along the way. Loermans has also been collaborating with artist Marta Pokojowczyk in exploring the relationship to her canvasses and painting. Concurrent to Loermans research and practice Litherland and McLaren have been developing their own patterned woven canvasses to paint on, one of the focuses of the work is to highlight the importance and materiality of the fabric support for the painting. The event will include two short presentations from the artists before an in conversation where parallels will be discussed between the work, as well as the importance of learning from history and understanding and revisiting craft practices. Chaired by Haarlem Artspace Co – Director Catherine Rogers with time for audience questions.Thanks to Haarlem Artspace for inviting me
I look forward to receive more images from The Stedelijk Museum, or get permission to go by myself or have a student making detailed pictures so we can decipher the pattern and thereby preserve the textile knowledge of this canvas. Fingers crossed!
…I first found about this canvas in the Dutch TV show “Krabbé zoekt, a journey in Chagall’s footsteps”. Broadcast AVROTROS.
Although not allowed to see this program in Portugal, because of geographic location, I managed to catch some parts of the video and make a still. It was possible to get rough idea of the pattern.
source text and picture below: https://www.stedelijk.nl/en/collection/753-marc-chagall-le-violoniste
Marc Chagall’s The Fiddler, completed just after moving to Paris from St. Petersburg, is a good representation of the artist’s work from this period. The fiddler as a subject is often found in Chagall’s work. The huge figure of the musician in this painting stands with one foot on the roof of a building, the other on a small hilltop which flattens out the picture plane. By including the homes in the background as well as the musician, this painting recalls memories of Russia. Chagall’s paintings realized during this time in Paris often portrayed scenes from Russia with inspiration from his new surroundings. Cubist influences can be seen in the series of flat planes and geometric shapes as well as in the non traditional perspective.
Weave drafts of the canvas of Velázquez’s “Adoration of the Magi” (1619)
I tried to see the effect of switching the draft in the warp and in the weft. These pictures show the effect of ‘back and front view” and turning the ‘textile’ 90*
I will have to weave the textile to confirm if they are different or not.
Or do you think there are matches if we could see the black (warp) also as lines in the computer generated (Iweaveit) pictures ?
The reason for this puzzle is that it might give a more secure idea of warp and weft direction in canvases without a selvedge by assuming the most logic weave draft to work out on the loom….note: the drafts at the bottom are matching.
Velázquez’s Adoración de los Reyes Magos painted in Seville in 1619, is on a canvas with a pattern. Analyses of the original textile at one of the borders show an M W twill pattern where the diagonals do not line up perfectly. I will again double check the weave draft I have generated on Weavelt, and publish the full draft soon.